Here is the Video Link to the video we will be watching and discussing tonight. The 3rd in Perry Noble’s series on grace:
Here’s the video link to the message we watched Thursday night. The second in a series on Grace. Check it out. https://newspring.cc/sermons/too-good-to-be-true/he-carried-me
Check out the message we watched this last Thursday, January 29th 2015.
I Think you’ll like it.
Here’s the video link:
A Message from Perry Noble – New Spring Church
- If you were start your own racing team, you would want to learn how to do that from someone with racing experience.
- You wouldn’t want to learn from someone who just read a book.
- There are amazing people of faith and experience in the Bible. If you could, who would you choose to talk to.
- Perry Noble, and many others including myself, would choose to speak to the Apostle Paul.
- 2 Timothy – possibly the last book that Paul wrote before he died. – Words of Mentorship from Paul, passed to Timothy before he died…
- Verse 7 is key – I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, and I have remained faithful…
- There are times when one needs to fight.
- Paul doesn’t say to fight all the time.
- Paul says to fight “The Good Fight.”
- People / Christians fight over a lot of stupid stuff.
- What is “The Good Fight?”
- Church Attendance / Christian Community Attendance
- Maintaining a Marriage Relationship – fighting for it’s life – keeping the flame of relationship alive.
- Maintaining physical, and emotional purity (standard-wise) in the “Dating Game/Relationship Adventure
Perry Noble: “You Asked for It – What’s The Big Deal
About Homosexuality & Gay Marriage?”
- This is the most popular question submitted
- This is also the most divisive question submitted.
-Girl Scout thin mint cookies illustration:
- Story about buying cookies to help a little Girl Scout.
- Twitter response about girl scout cookies purchase.
- You cannot buy these cookies because “they” support the “gays.”
-An Apology to “gays”, lesbians, and bisexuals regarding how they have been treated by the Christian community.
3 Things to realize before “I” (Perry Noble) preach this message:
– 1. You matter to God – he loves you and has a great plan for your life.
– 2. You matter to this church
– 3. You matter to me (Perry Noble) – I/he spent 3-4 hours with a “gay” focus group regarding how to preach this message.
1 Cor 6:9-11 – Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11 NIV)
James – The Bible is like a mirror, for us to see what is going on in our lives.
- We can see the standards we should live up to.
- The problem – Many Christians use the Bible as a window, rather than a mirror.
- They use it to examine and magnify others issues, rather than using it for self-examination as it was intended.
- The Bible was given to function as a set of standards by which we should live our lives, not collection of moral stones to throw at others we perceive as “not as good” as us.
Matthew 19: 4-6 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’ ? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” (Matthew 19:4-6 NIV)
- I am a follower of Jesus Christ
- I am not a follower of Jesus because of what he has said.
- I follow him because of what he did. (The resurrection of Jesus Christ)
- As a result – we can face anything the world throws at us.
- If we are going to follow him, we cannot approach what he said as a buffet.
- “Haven’t you read “He created man and woman…for this reason a man will leave his father and mother…what God has joined together let no one separate”
- – We are examining marriage/sexuality according to Jesus – (Not Biblical Marriage, Not even Christian Marriage)
– This is the marriage type the Jesus endorses: it is between a man and a woman, period.
- Box Illustration: Inside the box is safety, outside the box is pain, regret, and maybe death.
- The box is the boundary
- Matthew 19:4-6 identifies two types of people: 1)A Man & 2)A Woman
- Man=Husband – Woman=Wife – Then he talked about sex.
- God gives everything that is good. (Food)
- Jesus said that sex was given by God to celebrate intimacy between a husband and a wife.
- Marriage was given to illustrate the commitment God has for his church (relentless, passionate, unyielding)
- Anything outside of this box (husband and wife) is sinful and rebellion against God.
- I Cor 6:9-11 Doesn’t merely discuss the sinful nature of homosexuality.
- Everything outside of the box is bad. (Adultery, premarital sex, etc)
- Any type of behavior/sex outside of the box detaches us from God and his plan
- Outside of the box =Detachment from God – Inside of the box = Devotion to God
- The message is about much more than homosexuality. It is about sexual purity.
3 Arguments used by the LGB community:
1. I was born this way. – This isn’t a problem. It’s a non-issue
- (heterosexual men are born feeling like they need to have sex with every beautiful woman they can)
- That doesn’t mean that they should, or that it is right.
- We are all born sinful. Sin separates us from God.
- Does a “gay” person who gets saved never have to struggle with same sex feelings every again? (NO)
- Do men or women who get married never have to struggle with attraction to other people every again? (NO)
2. My feelings are very strong – Why would I feel this way if I wasn’t supposed to act on my feelings.
- – Feelings don’t make behavior right. (ex. Feeling like punching/”silencing” annoying people)
- – We have to be very careful when we try to legitimize behavior based on feelings
- – God’s facts will always trump our feelings.
3. Tolerance – If you disagree with a perspective (politically/culturally incorrect) one is often viewed as intolerant or hate-filled.
- – Intolerance does not equal disagreement.
- – Tolerance does not equal agreement.
- 3 types of tolerance:
- a) legal tolerance – We need to tolerate each other legally (abide by laws).
- b) social tolerance – We need to tolerate each other in social settings (abide by cultural mores)
- c) intellectual tolerance – I do not have to agree that what you do is a good idea.
- – People who scream intolerance of behavior are often not seeking acceptance, but rather approval. (Not to mention they are acting-out their own intolerance)
- – Acceptance does not equal approval.
- – I can accept you because Jesus accepts you, but I cannot approve of your behavior, because Jesus does not approve of your behavior. Jesus doesn’t approve of sin.
- – We all have regrets – Maybe 80-90 percent of our regrets are ties to sexual sins.
– Heb 4:14-16 Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has ascended into heaven, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet he did not sin. Let us then approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need. (Hebrews 4:14-16 NIV)
- – Temptation is not sin. Acting on our temptation is a sin
- – If we are pursuing Jesus, we are not trying to live outside of the ‘box’ he established.
- – “Therefore let us approach God’s throne with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace.”
- – Don’t beat people over the head with prejudice.
- – You win people with conversation, not condemnation.
- Jesus started conversations (with the “lost”). He did not offer condemnation…
Perry Noble: “You Asked for It: Can a Christian Smoke, Drink,
and Watch and “R” rated Movie?”
Sermon Notes & Discussion Questions
Video Link: http://newspring.cc/watch/you-asked-for-it-2013/can-a-christian-smoke-drink-and-watch-a-rated-r-movie
- How many of you have made unwise decisions? – Everyone
- Gasoline -vs-Kerosene – Gasoline explodes
- Everything we do affects everyone we know (No man is an island).
- In the church we have essentials and nonessentials.
- Theological points and doctrine – What is important? What isn’t as important?
- Christian maturity is not severing a relationship based on differing opinions of non-essentials.
- Some people want to see how close they can get to sin without touching it. (Not the goal)
1. Life as a Christian is not about getting permission to do what I want, but living in submission to all that God wants. Continue reading
Video Link: Perry Noble – New Spring Church –
Can I Be a Christian and Continue to Struggle With the Same Sin.